The Bluebell Railway’s Carriage Stock

(including other Passenger-Rated stock)

LCDR 3360 and 3188 - Richard Salmon - 18 June 2016 We have a large and diverse collection of rolling stock on the Bluebell Railway, built up over the years since we started in 1960. These include gems such as the Metropolitan Railway stock, which is the only close-coupled standard-gauge train in the country. We have five Pullman cars, from the 1920s and ’50s, an unrivalled collection of old LBSCR, SECR, LSWR and Southern Railway carriages, plus the unusual and unique 1913 built LNWR Observation Car and the venerable Great Northern Railway Directors’ Saloon.

Right: Restored London, Chatham & Dover Railway carriages Nos.3360 of 1889 and 3188 of 1897, seen on the evening of 3188’s re-launch into service, 18 June 2016. The carriage bodies had been used as bungalows from 1925 and 1935, and were rescued by the Bluebell in 2003 and 2005. They both now run on adapted SR van underframes. No.3360 was adapted to carry passengers in wheelchairs thanks to a “People’s Millions” grant from the Big Lottery Fund.

Two old London Brighton & South Coast Railway carriages have been restored to traffic after 68 and 80 years out of use, and another two are currently being restored. All four were recovered after more than half a century as dwellings, and have been mounted on suitably modified underframes.

Passenger rated stock is that which could be included in passenger trains. It includes luggage vans, carriage trucks, horse boxes, perishable produce vans and milk tankers.

The list shows vehicle number, type, (building date), and alternative numbers carried at various times in the vehicle’s history. Links from coach numbers are to photographs of each vehicle.

Other documents provide an Introduction to the Carriages, a Review of the Carriage Fleet, and a Stock List of our Wagons.

Pre-GroupingSR MaunsellSR BulleidPullman & CIWLLMSBREMUVans
Operational carriage stockCarriages under overhaulCarriages formerly based on the Bluebell


Pre-Grouping Carriages

London Brighton & South Coast Railway (LBSCR)

Craven-era carriages:
35 4-compt Second (c1856) Web page [dismantled body only]
94 Full Brake (c1858) Web page [body and underframe]
204 Quadrant-windowed 3-compt First (c1866) (Original No. Unknown, 204 as 2nd) Web page [dismantled body only]
221 Brake 2nd/3rd (1852 or 1859) (Original No. Unknown, 221 as Bk.3rd) Web page [will be rebuilt after fire]
Stroudley Carriages:
328 4w Main-line Third (1890) Web page [Under Restoration]
661 Main-line First (1880) (originally 6w, now 4w) (Suburban Brake 2nd 262 (1909), Brake 3rd 1648) Web page [Operational]
676 4w Suburban Brake Third (1875) Web page [body only]
725 4w Main-line Brake Third (1878) Web page [dismantled body sections only]
949 4w Suburban Brake Third (1881) Web page [Under Restoration]
992 4w Main-line Third (1880) Web page [body only]
20th Century LBSCR carriages:
60 Directors’ Saloon (1913) Web page
7598 First (1903) (LBSCR 142) Web page [Operational]

London Chatham & Dover Railway (LCDR)

48 6-wheel Brake 2nd (1894) (Brake 3rd 2781, SR 3630 (1927)) Web page
114 4-wheel Brake 3rd (1889) (Brake 2nd 106, Brake 3rd 114 (1891), 548 (1899), 3068 (1903)) Web page [Operational]
3188 28′ 3rd (1897) (LCDR 668, SECR 3188 (1907), Brake 3rd, SR 3652 (1926)) Web page [Operational]
3360 4-wheel semi-saloon (1889) (built as Brake 2nd 51, Brake 3rd 285 (1897), SECR 3360 (1901)) Web page [Operational]

South Eastern Railway (SER)

33 Drawing Room Car (1891) – Later Pullman Car “Constance” Web page [body in two sections]
172 1st Saloon (1898) (later brake 1st) (SR 7874) Web page [body only]
1050 Composite (later all 3rd) (1897/9, reconstructed by SR in 1924) (SER 568 and 792, SECR 1440, SR 5546) Web page
18?? Brake 3rd (1877-8) (One of four, numbered 1887-90) Web page [body only]
2159 6-compartment 3rd (1887) Web page [body only]

South Eastern & Chatham Railway (SECR)

950 Birdcage 2nd Saloon Brake (later 3rd) (1907) (3582) Web page [Not Bluebell stock; in private ownership]
971 “100 seater” 3rd (1923) (1434) Web page [Withdrawn pending overhaul]
1061 Birdcage 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1909) (3334) Web page
1098 “100 seater” 3rd (1922) (1416) Web page [Operational]
1170 Birdcage 3rd Brake (1912) (3410) Web page
1440 Composite (see 1050 under SER Carriages above) – probably for use as centre coach for Birdcage trio set
3363 Birdcage Lavatory 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1910) (SECR 1084, DS22) Web page [Operational]

London & South Western Railway (LSWR)

25 34′ family saloon (1885) (SR 0905 and 7937) Web page
320 Lavatory 3rd (1900, rebuilt and lengthened in 1935) (1228, 288) Web page
494 Corridor 3rd (1911) (673) Web page
1520 Lavatory Brake 3rd (1910) (2975) Web page [Operational]

Metropolitan Railway

368 Composite (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (515, 9702) Web page [Operational]
387 Brake 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (512, 2761) Web page [Operational]
394 Full 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1900) (518, 6702) Web page [Operational]
412 Composite (Built by Cravens, 1900) (516, 9705) Web page [Operational]

Great Northern Railway (GNR)

43909 Directors’ Saloon (1897) (706, 706E, 942090) Web page [Operational]

London & North Western Railway (LNWR)

1503 Observation Car (1913) (LMS 5316, 15843) Web page [Operational]

Southern Railway Maunsell Carriages (1923-39)

(all are Restriction 4 (i.e. 9ft wide), unless stated otherwise)

1309 Open Third (1935) Web page [Operational]
1336 “Drop-Light” Open Third (1933) Web page [Operational]
1365 built 1927: Dining Third 7866, redesignated Open Third 1365, 1930, Ambulance 6802 in 1944 and Compo Diner 7841 in 1947 Web page
2356 Corridor Third (Restriction 1, i.e. 8ft 6in wide) (1931) Web page
3687 Corridor Third Brake Web page (Restriction 0, i.e. 8ft wide for Hastings line) (1931) [Under Restoration]
3724 Corridor Third Brake (1930) Web page
4441 Nondescript Brake (could be used for 1st, 2nd or 3rd class as required) (Restriction 1) (1933) Web page
4444 Nondescript Brake (Restriction 1) (1933) Web page
4922 Sorting Carriage for Travelling Post Offices (1939) Web page
5644 Corridor Composite (1930) Web page
6575 Corridor Brake Composite (1929) Web page
6686 Corridor Brake Composite (1935) Web page [Operational]
7864 Restaurant Car (1932, rebuilt 1947 as Kitchen Buffet) Web page

Southern Railway designed Bulleid Carriages (1945-52)

1456 Open Third (1947) Web page [On long term loan to Mid Hants Railway, undergoing overhaul]
1464 Open Third (1950) Web page [Operational]
1481 Open Third (1950) Web page
1482 Open Third (1950) Web page [Operational]
2515 Saloon Third Brake* (1951) Web page
2526 Saloon Third Brake* (1951) Web page [Operational]
4227 Saloon Third Brake* with Coupé (i.e. half) compartment (1948) Web page
4279 Saloon Third Brake* (1949) Web page
5768 Corridor Composite (1947) Web page [Operational]
* denotes “semi-open type”

Pullman and Compagnie Internationale de Wagons-Lits

89 “Constance” Pullman Kitchen 1st – see South Eastern Railway Car 33 above
157 “Car No.54” Pullman Brake 3rd (1923) Web page [Undergoing overhaul]
175 “Fingall” Pullman Kitchen 1st (1924) Web page [Operational]
194 “Car No.36” Pullman Parlour Brake 3rd (1926) Web page [Stored awaiting overhaul]
219 “Christine” Pullman 3rd (formerly “Car No.64”) (1928) Web page [Operational]
229 “Lilian” Pullman 3rd (formerly “Car No.76”) (1928) Web page – For Sale – please enquire
307 “Carina” Pullman Kitchen 1st (1951) Web page
3801 CWIL Night Ferry Wagons-Lits (1939) Web page [used as volunteer sleeping accommodation]

London Midland & Scottish Railway Carriages

(These three carriages are used for overnight sleeping accommodation for volunteers)
– see also the LMS BGZ

398 LMS/BR 1st Sleeper (1952) Web page [at Sheffield Park] – For Sale – please enquire
603 LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1951) Web page [at Horsted Keynes] – For Sale – please enquire
623 LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1952) Web page [at Horsted Keynes] – For Sale – please enquire

British Railways Standard Steam Stock (Mk.I)

1674 RBR Restaurant-Buffet (Refurbished) (1961) Web page [Operational]
1818 RMB Restaurant Miniature Buffet (1960) Web page [Operational]
1838 RMB Restaurant Miniature Buffet (1959) Web page [Awaiting overhaul]
3064 FO Open First (1955) Web page [Operational]
3069 FO Open First (1955) Web page [Operational]
4754 SO Open Second (64 seats) (1957) (Bicester Military Railway WGP 8806) Web page [Under overhaul]
4824 SO Open Second (48 seats) (1959) Web page [Operational]
4941 Saloon (formerly SO) (1962) Web page [Operational, Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts]
4957 SO Open Second (64 seats) (1962) Web page [Operational]
5034 Saloon (formerly SO, then TCL 99165) (1962) Web page [Under overhaul, Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts]
16012 CK Corridor Composite (1957) (7012, S16012) Web page [Operational]
16210 CK Corridor Composite (1961) (7210) Web page [Operational]
21246 BCK Brake Composite (1962) Web page [Operational]
21271 BCK Brake Composite (1964) (ADB977109) Web page
25728 SK Corridor 2nd (1961) (18728) Web page [Operational]
25769 SK Corridor 2nd (1961) (18769) Web page [Awaiting end overhaul]
34556 BSK Brake Corridor 3rd (later 2nd) (1955) Web page [Operational]
35207 BSK Brake Corridor 2nd (1958) Web page [Operational]

Ex-BR Carriages, now non-traffic vehicles:

88 “Service Car No.2” Staff Sleeping Coach. Mk.1 SLC (M2442) (1961) Web page – For Sale – please enquire
10526 Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo
10605 Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo
10690 Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo 1 and Photo 2
10693 Mk3 SLEP – Staff Dormitory – Photo
25871 Carriage Shop, (TCL 99161) Ex-Mk.1 SK (1962) Web page
TCL 99166 Staff Dormitory, Sheffield Park. Ex-Mk.1 SK (25776) (1961) Web page
BDC 977166 Visitor facilities, East Grinstead. Ex-Mk.1 BSK (35419, later Staff and Generator Coach) (1963) Web page

BR Electric Multiple Unit Vehicles:
See also the four Metropolitan Railway carriages, above, which are one-time emu vehicles.

76262, 62236, 70797 & 76263: 4 Vep unit 3417 “Gordon Pettitt” (1967) (7717, 3017) Web page [In care of The Southern Electric Traction Group]

Passenger Rated Vans

Pre-Grouping passenger-rated Vans

1 LCDR Horse Box (1882) (1002, SECR 184) Web page [May be rebuilt after loss in fire]
153 SECR Passenger Luggage Van (PLV) (1922) (1994, DS70031) Web page [Potentially operational]
270 LBSCR Milk/Fruit Van (1908) (2178, 1525S) Web page [Restored but not yet operational]
719 SECR Birdcage Brake Van (1905) (616, 1601S) Web page
5498 LSWR Ventilated Luggage Van (1920) (1584, DS1686) Web page

Southern Railway Vans and other passenger rated stock

404 Van C (BY) (4-wheel Guard’s Brake Van) (1937) Web page [Under Overhaul]
419 Van C (BY) (1937) (ADB 975548) Web page
1184 PLV (4-wheel Passenger Luggage Van, later “PMV”) (1935) Web page
1788 PLV (1942) Web page
2186 PLV (1934) Web page
2276 Van U (4 wheel Covered Carriage Truck, CCT) (1929) Web page
2462 GBL (Gangwayed Bogie Luggage van) (body 1931, u/f 1910) Web page [Potentially operational]
2531 4-w CCT (1955) Web page [Overhaul completed 2019]
4430 6-wheel glass-lined Milk Tank (1933) Web page [Potentially operational]
4601 Bogie Scenery Van (equipped for carrying circus elephants) (1949) Web page [Children’s Play Carriage]
Further SR vans are also on site, and the bodies of some have already been removed.
These are providing underframes for the restoration of 19th century 4-wheeled carriages.

LMS & BR passenger-rated Vans

32975 LMS BGZ (6-wheel Gangwayed Guard’s Brake, Stove R) (1938) Web page [Operational, Pullman livery]
87720 BR 12-Ton INSUL-FISH Insulated Fish Van (1960) (083402) Web page
6334 BR BG – HST Barrier Vehicle (ex Gangwayed Full Brake 81478/92128) (1957) Web page
86722 BR bogie GUV – (Post Office NJV 93722) (1959) Web page
94181 BR CCT (1959) Web page

Coaching stock nominally available for service

* indicates carriages which will require major overhaul in next few years.

LBSCR: 661, 7598;                       LCDR: 114, 3188, 3360; 
GNR: Directors' Saloon (LNER 43909)     Metropolitan Railway: 387, 394, 368, 412;
SECR: 1098;                             LNWR: Observation Car 1503;
LSWR: 1520;                             LMS: Stove R 32975; 
Pullmans: 175 "Fingall", 219 Car No.64 (Christine)
SR Maunsell: 1309*, 1336, 6686, Milk Tanker 4430*;
SR Bulleid: 1464*, 1482, 2526, 5768
BR: 1674, 1818, 3064, 3069, 4824, 4941, 4957*, 16012, 16210, 21246, 25728*, 
    34556, 35207, CCT 2531

Carriages undergoing major overhaul

LBSCR 949 – the restoration of this 1881-built brake third, rescued from a farmyard, is nearly complete.
LBSCR 328 – another grounded body under restoration, and like 949 now mounted on a rebuilt SR van underframe.
Pullman 157 “Car 54” – a major project, including the provision of wheelchair access to our Pullman train, this is a 1923-built Pullman Brake carriage.
SR Maunsell 3687 – a Hastings-line brake third, originally brought to the Bluebell to provide spare parts for other restorations, this became a restoration project in its own right. Now moving towards completion.
BR Mk.1 TSO 4754 – an early example of a Mk.1, this carriage came to the Bluebell from the Bicester Military Railway, and is having a thorough overhaul before it enters service.
BR Mk.1 Saloon 5034 – End-structure overhaul complete, now receiving internal refurbishment.
BR Mk.1 RMB 1838 – End-structure overhaul being undertaken by external contractors.

Carriages currently receiving heavy maintenance

SR Van’C’ 404 – bodywork refurbishment and fitting out as filming support vehicle
LBSCR Van 270 – following restoration of its bodywork, and the replacement of its wheelsets, a redesign of its brake gear has been necessary, and the work on the brake gear is now underway to make the van operational.
Mk.1 SK 25769, steam heat work under way, and to receive intermediate structural repairs and bogie overhaul (having swapped bogies with 25728).

Carriages currently undergoing light overhaul/maintenance

Bulleid Open 3rd 1482 – re-trim of seating in progress, whilst returned to service for peak periods.
LNWR Observation Car No.1503, LCDR/SECR 3188, 3360 and LBSCR 661: awaiting mechanical attention.
SECR Van 153 – bodywork/doors/roof attention.

The Carriage Exhibition at Horsted Keynes is well worth a visit, and includes a viewing gallery in the carriage works, at the south end of platform 5. Donations collected are now being put towards the eventual overhaul of the SR Maunsell Restaurant car No.7864, and the provision of more urgently needed overhead cover for our carriage stock.On Platform 1 at Horsted Keynes, the Carriage Shop sells various items, including a large range of books, to raise funds for carriage restoration.

Much of the carriage restoration done at Horsted Keynes is undertaken by volunteers. As the above lists show, there is a long line of carriages awaiting our attention. Why not come and join us; drop in for a look around the shed and see what we do! There is all sorts of work available, skilled and unskilled. Learn new skills, or brush up on those you’ve forgotten. There are people around every day. Join the Carriage Restorers and be part of an award winning department! 1309, Pullman ‘Bertha’ (no longer on the Bluebell) and the completed Metropolitan Set have been overall winners of the Heritage Railway Association (HRA) C&W competition, 3363, 32975 and 7598 have won HRA “Coach of the year” awards, and 387, 114, 661, 7598 and 1520 have received other prestigious prizes and awards.

Carriages and Vans which are no longer at the Bluebell Railway:

Caledonian Railway: TK 3339
LNWR: Semi-Royal Saloon 806
LMS: TK 1272
Southern Railway: 4 Cor DMBT 11201, Van C (BY) 442, Van C (BY) 653
Pullman Cars: 278 6 Pul Kitchen Composite “Bertha”, 282 “Brighton Belle” Kitchen 1st “Doris”, 311 Met-Cam Kitchen 1st “Eagle”
British Railways: Mk.I RKB 1566photo, Mk.I RU(B) 1987, Mk.I FO 3042, Mk.I FO 3116, Mk.2c FK 13540, Mk.I CK 16263, Mk.I SK 18752, Mk.I SK 24458, Mk.I BSK 35448, Mk.I CL 43010, Mk.I BS 43172, Mk.I SLO 48015 and “Monster” CCT W600W.Southern Railway “Matchboard” Brake No.3554 was loaned to the Bluebell by the Vintage Carriages Trust, 1991-93. Photo

Ex-Travelling College train – 12 Mk.1 carriages were purchased in late 1993. Five remain on the Bluebell. The following, which had been converted to dormitories were immediately sold-on: SK 25795, SK 25856 and SK 25994. Subsequently TSO 4921, SK 25853, BCK 21238 and the “New Century Lounge” SK 25778 were also sold for use elsewhere.

Four former “Queen of Scots” Sleeping Cars were hired for use on the Bluebell for a few years from 1992: BR Mk.1 Sleeper First 2110 “State Car No.85”, BR Mk.1 SK 26208 “Imperial State Car No.84”, BR Mk.1 Sleeper First 2108 “State Car No.83” and BR Mk.1 SK 26169 “Imperial State Car No.82”, which all left again after just a few years use.
No.88 (“Service Car No.2”) was purchased, and remains on the Bluebell (see above).

Former SLOA (later FSS) set BN 91 carriages, which were on hire to the Bluebell from April 1990 for a year, were BCK 120 (Sc21236) and FOs 125 Eileen (M3115), 127 Carol (M3117), 128 Beryl (M3130) and 358 (M3108), in addition to 3116 (listed above).

A rake of carriages was hired in 1963 to cover for the Chesham Set being sent to Neasden for the centenary of the Metropolitan Railway. These were Bulleid Brake Composite S6714S, Mk.1 TSO S4381, Bulleid Open Third S1495S, Bulleid Open Third S1473S, Mk.1 TSO S4014 and Mk.1 48-seat Open Second (later reclassified as Open First) S3504. None of these vehicles entered preservation. S3504 was used to supplement the Sheffield Park Buffet seating prior to the arrival of Maunsell 1365.

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Copyright © 7 October 1995, and subsequent updates.
Last update 21 July 2020 by Richard Salmon.